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In any rational debate it is important to have a command of the facts. The current gun control debate unfortunately is not informed by facts but rather conjecture and anecdotal evidence that would never fly in a court of law. You would think that in a country whose murder rate is 20 times higher than in other wealthy societies we all would want credible research to back up our positions, regardless of which side we were on.
Since 1996, Congress has prevented first the CDC and now NIH, from spending any money that could be construed as advocating or promoting gun control. The 2012 restrictions were a direct result of the conclusions reached by a group who concluded that a gun did not prevent its owner from being shot during an assault. (Nature 488, 129; 2012). This paper was dismissed by the NRA as nothing more than junk science, however this was only one paper and more research could have suggested the exact opposite to be true.
Consensus conclusions and the policies that derive from them are informed from conducting a large number of rigorous scientific studies. The NRA, supported by Senators Lee and Hatch, do not even want that.
If we accept the argument that more guns in more hands would make us safer, it would logically follow that more nuclear weapons (and more countries owning them) would make the world a better place to live.
Congratulations once again to the Salt Lake Tribune’s news and editorial staff for their blood lust passion in making a defective and dangerous member of the human race infamous. By sensationalizing the legalized euthanasia of Ronnie Lee Gardner, you have once again shown that your true colors of greed and vengeance, are at the core of your philosophy.
One of our generations greatest poets, Bob Dylan summed up your paper’s support for revenge and profit in his opening line to his song “Desolation Row,” “They’re selling post cards of the hanging, they’re painting the passports brown.” I truly believe that you too would sell the same post cards to the ignorant masses given the opportunity.
I do believe the state had a valid reason to execute Mr. Gardner but only because he could not be incarcerated without flight risk or risk to those that protect us from people like him. In general I am opposed to the death penalty as it is applied in this country as it has proven to be cost ineffective, biased and occasionally resulted in the state sanctioned murder of an innocent person. Mr. Gardner’s blood is on my hands but I will not profit from it.
Half mile from the railroad track
lived a young fella named Nigel Black
He and his wife Della lived in a trailer shack
See some rooms from where I sat
Wood burning stove, 2 kids, one cat
Fighting and forgiving and all of that
Deer legs and heads upon his roof
Don’t believe me I have some proof
By the Bear river
We lived, a sliver of life.
It might escape notice
to a young novice
We even shared his wife.
Got em a 76 pickup G M C
Crease down the middle, didn’t bother me
Down came the tree ,Timber yelled he
Just missed Della you see
Hot tubs and Hookers
Food Broker’s and Hooker
All in all we were pretty tame
Because everybody looked the same
I don’t know about you but if our federal government ever came after Tim Bridgewater, one of two Republican candidates running for the US Senate in Utah’s June 22nd primary, I would be on the government’s side. Tim is so worried that Obama and the UN are going to take his guns away that he and his adherents are prepared to fight to the death. Of course Mr. Bridgewater was talking tough for the illiterate masses in Utah who mistakenly believe the “Small Arms Treaty” currently being debated will infringe on their “right to bear arms.”
On Monday June 7, 2010, KUED broadcast a pre-recorded debate, in conjunction with the Hinckley Institute of Politics at the University of Utah (www.hinckley.utah.edu/), between Tea Bagger Tim Bridgewater and his opponent Tea Bagger Mike Lee. Both secessionists talked confidently and boldly about how they were going to transport all Utahan’s back to 1787 when our US Constitution was first adopted.
Since both candidates like hyperbole I thought I would use the same tact. Just suppose the government really did want to take Timmy’s toys away how do you think they would pull it off, given our military’s dominance over any adversary on earth. Tim wouldn’t stand a chance with the “small arms” he’s got. I doubt his collection even includes a flame thrower let alone a grenade launcher.
We could take him out from virtually anywhere in the world with a remote drone. A cruise missile would be overkill and a bomber a waste of fuel. Probably just send one sniper, although we could also see a Utah version of David Koresh’s Branch Dividian, Mount Carmel Center and his apocalypse outside of Waco,Texas in 1993. However, this time it would go down in Happy Valley, Utah with Tim and his followers.
I’m afraid if our military is still fighting two wars they would send the FBI instead. I’m sure they would want in on that action. If what I’ve seen on TV is true they are well equipped too. Oh, let’s not forget our own local government such as the Sheriff’s and Police’s SWAT teams. They are eager beavers and usually all they get out for are domestic disturbances-they would love the change.
If I interfered on Tim’s side they would arrest me. The prudent 56 year old in me says to stay out of their way and avoid Pleasant Grove, Utah for awhile if the need arose. I had better go east on US 40 before going south in the state if I was traveling from Salt Lake City.
At the same time it would be the biggest story in decades and would lead in the Salt Lake Tribune, Ogden Standard Examiner and the Desert News. I’m sure it would make it to television, radio, cyberspace and the New York Times. Just think, Tim’s very own “YouTube” video of his last day on earth.
I seriously doubt that Tim wants to “take on” the federal government but in order for him and his family to move to hot and humid Washington D.C. he must sound and act tough. Ironic for the fact that it would entail dismantling the very same government that would pay his salary and benefits. You know the one with the cushy health care, paid staffs, gymnasium, young interns, lobbyist’s money, air fare and no term limits.
However, in order to get to the promised land Tim and Mike are running a paranoid “bad government” me good campaign of states rights and a return to a literal interpretation of the constitution that was ratified 223 years ago in 1787 (Mike gave us the date).
As with their ill advised remarks about the resumption of nuclear testing in Nevada, Tim and Mike didn’t do their homework again. Someone should of told these two that the curb on the power of the federal government wasn’t ratified until 1791 in “The Bill of Rights” which includes our precious and sacrosanct 2nd amendment right to bear arms. What a choice.